“She looked older.”
I haven’t said anything about the Roman Polanski mess because A.) thinking about it makes me disgusted with humanity; and B.) other people have said what I wanted to, only better. But since Roman Polanski has used the tired “she looked older than she was” excuse, and since I just wrote a post yesterday about being a girl who “looked older,” I thought I’d address that excuse, and how and why it’s completely bullshit.
Like I said yesterday, I wore a woman’s size ten when I was ten, although I didn’t yet have boobs. That’s what saved me: I had this big ol’ butt, but I was flat as a pancake. If you saw me from the back, I probably looked 25–from the front, though, it was painfully obvious that I hadn’t gotten my period yet. And that I liked unicorns and stuffed animals and probably unironically listened to Hanson.
But the boobs came in eventually: I was a B-cup by the seventh grade. Like I said, I recently saw a picture of myself from that time and misjudged my own age by five years. But even though my bodily development was ahead of schedule, the rest of me was right on track with average. By the time I was twelve, I was perfectly aware of what body parts were involved in the act of procreation, but I wasn’t quite sure how they fitted together or which did what when. I had a book about the female body, but it didn’t contain diagrams of anyone’s reproductive equipment. I stole numerous trashy romance novels from my mother, but they were all maddeningly nonspecific. My knowledge of sex was fifty percent fact, forty-five percent supposition, and five percent “HIS THROBBING MEMBER.”
In other words, I was your typical pre-teen geek.
At twelve, I didn’t think about sex much—okay, that’s a total lie, I thought about sex all the time. I just didn’t think about it in relation to me. I might imagine having sex with Taylor Hanson, but in my fantasy, I was no longer twelve. I was tall and blond and probably about 25 (making what Taylor and I were doing QUITE illegal). And when I had thoughts about that special boy in my class? I didn’t dream of boning him; I dreamed of kissing him, chastely, on the mouth. And even THAT felt illicit and daring.
I was twelve. I was a child. Sex was something that would happen in the far future, when I was very, very different. It didn’t factor into my day-to-day life. I did not think of myself in sexual terms. AT ALL. So when I threw on a pair of short shorts and a tight tank top one hot summer afternoon to walk up to the shopping center and buy a coke, two things were on my mind: 1.) I was going to offend the populace with the sight of this much jiggly, untanned flesh; and 2.) I didn’t care, because it was so fucking hot that if I wore any more clothing I would DIE. I would just plain fall to the ground, dead on the spot from heat exhaustion. So even though my outfit was revealing and the idea that everyone could see that much of me was embarrassing, I didn’t change it.
At no point did I think, “Hmmm, these shorts might send the wrong message,” or “This top is a little too tight—maybe I should put on a baggy t-shirt instead so I don’t cause a riot.” I didn’t think of myself in those terms. It never occurred to me that something I was wearing might be interpreted as overtly sexual, because even though I didn’t tell my friends this, I still played with my dollhouses. I WAS A KID, FOR FUCK’S SAKE.
And kids don’t worry about dressing too sexily.
Anyway, so I went up to the shopping center and bought a coke and started walking back down the strip of stores. And this guy was behind me—an older guy, and good-looking—and he was muttering something I couldn’t quite hear. This was before the age of ubiquitous cell phones, so I don’t know what I thought he was doing; I just knew he couldn’t be talking to me. Nevertheless, he made me feel uncomfortable and embarrassed in a way I couldn’t quite articulate, so I ducked into a drug store and browsed for five minutes or so. Figuring the coast was clear, I went back outside.
He was still there. And this time, I could hear what he was saying.
“Girl, you got a nice ass!” he announced, falling into step a few feet behind me and clearly ogling my rear end. I was flummoxed. Nothing like this had ever happened to me before, and I had no idea what to say or do. Instinctively, I sped up and pretended not to hear him. But his pace quickened to match mine, and his stream of “compliments” didn’t let up. This went on for a couple of minutes, until I reached the movie theater at the end of the strip mall and he walked off into the parking lot. I heaved a huge sigh of relief.
Which I just about choked on when he pulled up next to me IN HIS CAR.
Yeah, that’s right. I was twelve, and my “swain” was old enough to drive by himself.
He followed me almost all the way home, y’all. For a good two or three blocks, he trailed me in his car, shouting things I couldn’t hear and didn’t want to. I just kept walking steadily, pretending he didn’t exist and hoping to God he wouldn’t hurt me. He was clearly a crazy person, and I was clearly not safe as long as he was around.
I have never, ever, been so afraid, either before or since.
He eventually veered off onto another road, and I never saw him again. But even though “nothing happened,” my view of the world was never quite the same. Before that day, I was not afraid that someone would try to hurt me or invade my personal space because they wanted to fuck me. After that day, I no longer had that luxury. Or rather, that basic human right.
Thing is, if you asked that guy, he’d probably claim he did nothing wrong. He’d point to my outfit and say that I was dressed like a slut and should have expected to be treated like one. When informed of my age, he would have assumed that I was “fast” or some such shit because of the way I dressed. When informed that I’d never so much as kissed a boy, he would have rolled his eyes in disbelief, but would have countered with “Yeah, well, it’s still not my fault. She LOOKS way older.”
And you know what? I did. I really, really did.
But why the fuck does anyone think that matters?
Why the fuck is that ever an excuse?
I have never met a person under sixteen who could convince me that they were above the age of consent after more than five minutes of conversation. Because guess what? She may look older, she may even act older (if by “act older” you mean “has clearly already had sex”), but at the end of the day, she isn’t older, and it shows. There will be conspicuous silences and curious remarks if you try to engage her in an actual, adult conversation, because she is not an adult and does not know how one talks.
No, you probably won’t be able to figure this out if you’re too busy staring at her chest and trying to figure out how to get her to sleep with you to actually listen to what she’s saying.
No, you probably won’t figure this out if you introduce yourself to her by telling her that you want to fuck her.
No, you probably won’t figure this out if you’ve already decided that she’d make a good fucktoy and you’re willing to do whatever it takes to make her one.
No, you probably won’t figure this out if you just plain don’t want to.
So yeah, that whole, “She looked older!” thing? Only works for people who believe it’s too much to expect that you like, talk to a woman before you fuck her. In other words, it only works for assholes.
But man, the world sure is FULL of assholes these days…

Question: wasn’t Roman Polanski tried in the 70s? Doesn’t some kind of statute of limitations kick in by now? And doesn’t Interpol have seriously better things to do?
That said, oh my fucking god. I never had the above experience, am grateful I never had said experience, and cannot imagine how that must color one’s view of the world. I really don’t know what’s wrong with some people.
I really don’t know what’s wrong with some people.
They think they have the right to a woman’s body any time, anywhere, whether she’s technically a “woman” yet or not.
That’s what’s wrong with them.
Ok, so, I went and read some articles and figured out why a trial that happened in the 70s is re-happening now. I have prepared a new statement, all ye people! Hear and listen well to the girl who took ONE media law class ever!
-I personally think Interpol had better things to be doing than arresting Roman Polanski, but hey, he’s already arrested. We’ve got the fucker, and we might as well try him.
-Sounds like there’s a lot of potential grounds for mistrial or whatever the hell they’re calling it. However, last I checked, “the criminal might get off” is not ground to NOT HAVE A TRIAL. How you imagine or guess the justice system might eventually swing doesn’t really get to be a predictor of whether or not we engage with that system in the first place.
-Dude raped a girl. I am completely failing to see how age is an issue, with the exception of it compounding the crime: he didn’t just rape someone, he raped someone who couldn’t have legally consented to sex to begin with. So…yeah, I’m really confused and pissed with Whoopi Goldberg’s “It wasn’t RAPE-rape” comment. It is, in fact, rape-rape: it is DOUBLE rape.
Interpol probably does have “better” things to do, but at the same time? I’m glad they finally nabbed him. Assface has been gadding around for decades, and finally got so cocky that he made extradition a possibility by announcing a visit to a country that was willing to give him up AND THEN ACTUALLY WENT THROUGH WITH SAID VISIT. He honestly thought nothing would happen to him.
And that alone is reason enough to arrest him. Jackass.
Sounds like there’s a lot of potential grounds for mistrial or whatever the hell they’re calling it.
Eh, not so sure. Frankly? He jumped bail. For 30 years. Not really seeing much wiggle room there.
Dude raped a girl.
Yes. He’s been trying to spin it like it was some mutual debauchery for decades, but: read her testimony. There was no consent there, period. He didn’t “just” commit statutory rape: he raped her. End of story.
He pled guilty, too. The only leg he has to stand on there is begging for it to be called a mistrial.
And there HAS to be some kind of sentence for jumping bail for thirty fucking years, there just has to.
And there HAS to be some kind of sentence for jumping bail for thirty fucking years, there just has to.
Seriously. WHAT BULLSHIT.
Well said. And so true.
It disgusts me that this excuse continues to have legs.
That is a terrifying story. I’m sorry.
It kills me that people seriously have the reasoning that it is okay to make nasty comments because of the way you’re dressed or simply because you are a woman. And that logic would still be used to explain away following a young girl home in your car. “Not my fault. Hers.”
Ugh. Disgusting.
I’m glad Polanski was arrested. It’s about time. I remember when “The Pianist” was up for multiple Oscars and there were so many heartfelt pleas to let him come to the U.S. for the awards ceremony without being arrested. I was floored and disgusted. Seriously.
Now, just not surprised by the outpouring of sympathy for him. Still disgusted though.
Thank you for your insight on this. You are awesome.
I remember when “The Pianist” was up for multiple Oscars and there were so many heartfelt pleas to let him come to the U.S. for the awards ceremony without being arrested.
Yeah, I think I was about 17 or 18 when that happened and my feminist consciousness was FAR from fully formed. And even then I was all, “Really? REALLY?”
Wordity word.
That definitely shouldn’t have happened to you at all. It sucks when someone ruins the innocent world for a kid. It sucks it happened to you that way.
Yeah. Polanski needs to be in the jail cell. He probably would have gotten his slap on the wrist if he had gone through with it to begin with. Now he’s gonna suffer all kinds of shit coming back to the US.
But people arguing what he did wasn’t wrong? Those are the people I want to slap across the face.
Those are the people I want to slap across the face.
Those are the people who make me wish I really did have a set of brass knuckles with my name spelled backwards on them.
No no no, that way broken proximal phangales lie. When you strike at the head with brass knuckles you must strike at an angle. The point being to cause rotational trauma to the brain and vertebral arteries. A head on (Ahah! ahah! heado on, get it?) hit will likely fracture your fingers unless you have a very strong grip.
What you want is one of THESE babies:
http://www.trueswords.com/images/prod/c/TS-MEDHAMINF_540.jpg
All you have to do is get you name ingraved on the hammer head, and hey presto. This also have the advantage that when he tries to drie away, you can hook the “parrot beak” through his car roof and do a terminator climb.
THAT IS THE BEST THING I HAVE EVER SEEN IN MY LIFE.
EXCUSE ME WHILE I GO ACQUIRE ONE.
I demand props for the “head on” joke!!!
Naw, I was ignoring that HORRIBLE PUN.
…holy hell I’m slow, I *just* got that. I will now apply my desk directly to my forehead.
My work is done, muoahahahh!
Also, I am really irritated that at least one person whose work I really like signed the petition for him to be released. Goddamnit, Terry Gilliam! Why the fucking fuckfuck fucking fuck!
I’ve always kinda liked Whoopi Goldberg too, sigh.
And yeah. It doesn’t matter in the slightest if someone looks old or young or fast or easy or high or drunk, NOBODY DESERVES TO BE RAPED EVER. Or sexually assaulted or verbally assualted with lewd comments or stalked or etc etc etc. (My ass is apparently a fucking magnet, as I’ve had near-strangers who happened to go to the same school as me grab it twice. At ages twelve and fifteen. Grr.)
And this pisses me off even more because of a depressing conversation I had with a friend earlier in which she said that a certain guy was nice. Because he’d never raped her. And anyone who didn’t rape her was automatically nice. I wanted to stick my head through the wall a few times. And vomit.
And anyone who didn’t rape her was automatically nice. I wanted to stick my head through the wall a few times. And vomit.
Yeah, I’ve had a few conversations like that. It’s like, “Don’t take this the wrong way, but I need to go up my meds by like a BILLION, and then I’ll be back.”
The world is a very, very hard place sometimes.
*Boggle* *pause* *Keep Boggling*
Whaaa?
*Pause, trying to formulate coherent sentence*
If I am nice guy since I do not rape, does that mean that if I do, I am an average guy?
WTF would I have to do to be considered a bad person then? Level entire cities and eat children?
And on a related note, what the hell have these persons had to live through to hold men in such low esteem?
I guess in her mind it was normal to rape her.
Their normal justification for that particular guy being nice is ‘he bought us ice cream’, so that one was pretty extreme.
The one I’m talking about, large amounts of unfathomable abuse by both her family and their friends. And apparently her mother giving her to random men to play with. I am enraged on her behalf at everyone who hurt her. Also sickened.
I don’t know what to say to that. On one hand I already knew people do horrible things, on the other hand, I still get so damn angry on her behalf.
Bleah!
Yeah. Humanity is goddamn depressing. Be glad you’re spared the details -.-
I rather want to beat up everyone who’s ever hurt a child, but I expect it’s hypocritical or something. Or at least illegal, and I’m over 18 now.
Well, it is only a crime if you are guilty, and you are innocent until convicted, and you won’t be convicted if they never find the bodies….
But still, rule of law and so on and so forth. *sigh*
You’re talking to someone whose entire justification for not murdering her mother since she hit her teens was that she could be tried as an adult.
Besides, I’m not foolish enough to think that having watched some CSI marathons means I could actually cover up a crime
…..ICE DAGGERS. No murder weapons for you!
I’m possibly slightly high on lack of sleep, which seems to happen no matter how much sleep I get -.- Then again when I slept earlier I had a nightmare about giant sentient alien exercise balls.
Sorry, bugger, rambling again.
(Seriously, they try younger people as adults all the time. It’s really kind of freaky.)
Then again when I slept earlier I had a nightmare about giant sentient alien exercise balls.
BEST DREAM EVER.
Seriously, they try younger people as adults all the time. It’s really kind of freaky.
Yeah, they do. It’s gotten to the point where just like, “Dude, come on. They didn’t hang 14-year-olds even in the 1890s. WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?!”
They’re just afraid because they know we have nothing resembling a functional rehabilitation system, meaning you’re essentially throwing these kids in with a bunch of other criminals and depriving them of any real education or socialization that involves something other than lock-picking. OF COURSE THEY WILL KILL AGAIN. YOU WOULD TOO.
BEST DREAM EVER.
It tried to kill me and all of the other people on the vaguely UNIT-inspired military thingy (shut up I finally got around to watching Torchwood Children of Earth the other day why yes I am a geek)! And then it spawned all over they place and they were going to STEAL THE PLANET.
I have weird dreams k?
Also, I vaguely recall a twelve-year-old being tried as an adult for the murder of his stepbrother in my state a few years back, but not positive. It’s freaky though.
It also says probably unpleasant things about me that it’s my only reason not to commit murder ¬_¬
Dude, some days? The only thing keeping you from doing HORRIBLE THINGS is the knowledge that you’d never get away with it. This is WHY we have laws.
Hum. I suppose that is a fair argument for them, isn’t it. Logics!
See me not shocked. I spent a couple of years in a relationship with a girl who was abused as a child. I remain convinced that in some cases murder is a justified behaviour even years after the fact. But I am a bad person.
On a lighter note, Ice daggers don’t work. What you want to do is clobber’em with a frozen sheepshank, and then you cook it, and serve it up to the coppers when they come to investigate. No US cop can resist an irish stew. (Although, if they bring a belgian detective, or a little old lady, you’re toast.)
My mom told me that story many a time when I was a child.
My mom can be kind of weird.
I am not in an Alfred Hitchcock Presents episode!
That was Alfred Hitchcock Presents right? I mix up which episodes were that and which were the twilight zone sometimes. It seems too plausible to be Twilight Zone, though.
This trying people as adults thing? Over here in Sweden, where the mööse roams bitingly, we can’t try anyone under 15.
Not at all. Nada.
That is perhaps well, but at the same time, in the town where I live, last tuesday, three twelve year old kids abducted a ten year old girl from the school yard where all of them had break, dragged her to a nearby copse, and raped her.
They will go free under the law.
I am now torn between a) thinking that they are children and not responsible for their actions, and b ) going Frank Castle.
And the worst part for me is that I do a) and b) at the same time.
Dude, I thought you were Canadian. YOU LIED TO ME, YOU SOCIALIST! Also, hey! We’re probably related! Distantly and blondly!
This trying people as adults thing? Over here in Sweden, where the mööse roams bitingly, we can’t try anyone under 15.
Umm…that’s taking things rather to the opposite extreme. I’m not for sentencing a fourteen-year-old armed robber to life in prison, but…yeah.
That is perhaps well, but at the same time, in the town where I live, last tuesday, three twelve year old kids abducted a ten year old girl from the school yard where all of them had break, dragged her to a nearby copse, and raped her.
Oh, holy shit. That’s awful. Please tell me they’ll at least be put through some kind of rehabilitation?
Please don’t ask. I understand completely why she said that.
I would like to brutally murder anyone who causes anyone to understand that.
srsly though,
I don’t understand how this is such a controversial issue. Like, he *raped a kid*. How are people arguing about whether or not he should have to stand trial? I mean, if they think he shouldn’t go to prison, isn’t that what the trial’s for to begin with? AGH.
Also, damn, I’m sorry that happened to you when you were so young. I developed really early, and one of my clearest memories from elementary school is walking to the car at night, significantly ahead of my family, and having some random guy stick his head/shoulders out a car window and whistle. My brother was like (to my dad) “Why did that guy whistle at her?” and he was like “Because he thinks she’s cute” and I never wore that shirt again. Which is a pity, because the outfit I was wearing that day was my favorite ever. Young girls: not sex objects!
“Why did that guy whistle at her?” and he was like “Because he thinks she’s cute” and I never wore that shirt again. Which is a pity, because the outfit I was wearing that day was my favorite ever. Young girls: not sex objects!
Ugh. I’m sorry.
(Saw this before, I think I was too tired to comment at the time.)
I can honestly say that I have no idea who Roman Polanski is except for the part where apparently he raped a kid; I am uninformed & so on & so forth & should keep up with current events better.
But, as someone who gets hit on a lot by people who are a lot older – & these really are the only people who hit on me; it really makes me wonder what’s wrong with me that nobody my age finds me attractive. And it’s so much worse if the guy is actually attractive and not some random skeezeball. Like, will they settle for less because they’re old and they think I’m old…? Or because they’re prematurely nearsighted or something?
And really…? This “you have classic beauty/they just can’t see your value/boys will be all over you in middle school… wait, high school… wait, nobody hits on you? COLLEGE. GRAD SCHOOL. THE NURSING HOME.” business? That doesn’t do anything for me. Like, what am I supposed to think? I’m ugly now, but I’ll be pretty later? Eventually? Someday it’ll be appropriate for an attractive dude to hit on me when he’s not just trying to mess with my head ’cause he thinks it’s funny? You have to be a special brand of near-sighted to equate “different” with “pretty”?
I went to an amazing art walk event downtown tonight, and I had a lot of fun and all, but there was also the part where someone wanted to know if I smoked. And the part where I asked for a fountain drink & the dude thought I wanted a beer & would have given it to me.
Because he honestly thought I was old enough.
And my friend & I were dancing with this guy who had a didgeridoo (a didgeridoo! How awesome is that?!), nothing even sexual, and somebody passing said, ‘Those girls look like prostitutes. They could be for sale in that shop window.’
And really? Thanks for the assumption, douchebag. Not only are you foisting what you find to be a negative stereotype on people you’ve never met, you’re also making them powerless within the context of that stereotype, because it’s all in your head. If we were sex workers, we would (hopefully; obviously it’s more complex than this, but for these purposes…) be the C.E.O.s of our own bodies. Nobody gets to sell us.
But I’ve never felt threatened, and I’m not sure why. Maybe I’m just too naive; maybe I haven’t seen enough. I know I could get hurt, and I’m afraid that I might if I think about it, in the same way that you think about falling off a building and breaking your neck and it’s a scary thought. I’m just very easily discomfited by anybody overtly hitting on me – enough that even I get it, and I’m really dim about it.
She may look older, she may even act older (if by “act older” you mean “has clearly already had sex”), but at the end of the day, she isn’t older, and it shows. There will be conspicuous silences and curious remarks if you try to engage her in an actual, adult conversation, because she is not an adult and does not know how one talks.
In regards to that… at twelve, I did speak mostly like an adult. It was part of why other kids liked to throw things at me in gym. But, on the other hand, I was more idealistic than any adult I knew – and, at the same time, more consistently cynical. I had all of these mind-blowing, existential questions about greed & war & all of this awful stuff that adults just accept.
But you know what the other tip-off is?
When the kid has no idea that you’re hitting on her, and she thinks you want directions or something, and all the sudden you ask her how old she is, and she’s really confused.
Christ, that’s long. Sorry about that… >_>
Now I’m really curious what you look like. Which is fairly creepy for a random person on the internet, so I’m not going to ask for a picture or anything
But I have a bit of the ‘people can be talking to me and not realize how young I am’ thing going on. I’ve been hit on by college guys who decided to converse with me the entire city bus ride and I was mistaken for being a sophmore in college by coworkers of my uncle’s at a barbecue they were hosting, when I was going into my sophmore year of high school. I don’t know whether it’s the only child thing or the antisocial book nerd thing but I’ve always been a bit old for my age
And I was frequently told I was very mature for my age when I still thought that graffiti on the school saying ‘fuck’ was by people tragically misspelling ‘duck’ (a friend of mine who had been similarly naive thought it was ‘yuck’).
I don’t really know where I’m going with this, I seem to be big on rambly blog comments lately >_<
Here, I'll make a point: Sexual objectification of persons of any age or gender without their consent (provided thtey are legally able to give it) is bad. Still wordy but more on-topic
Haha, I have a daily outfit photo that shows my face on my blog, three posts down. I… really don’t look that old.
I think, for me, it’s a combination of mannerisms & the way I dress. Normal sixteen-year-olds don’t wear five-inch heels or dress pants or blazers to school, and they don’t have as much schoolwork, haha. I think it’s easiest to mistake me for older when I’m doing homework, because I’ll pull out this assload of books and just go at it for a couple hours at a time at the library. And I think restraint is definitely a big thing with judging age – I got mistaken for a senior as a freshman because I was so quiet.
Bleh, objectification. I like the note about “without their consent”, because that’s something I do think about when I think about objectification (and age of consent laws exist for a reason…). It reminds me of something I see a lot – don’t do this or don’t do that; someone might objectify you, horrors!
And I’m like, ‘…K. So you’re telling me to put myself back in my place before someone else can do it? Or try to do it?’ And, to bring this back around to relevance & age, sometimes I do want people to be attracted to me, even if they’re of an inappropriate age. I want to feel like I’m hot shit. But that doesn’t mean I want them to get to know me or to get to know them or that I want to do anything with them. I just want to get to where I’m going imagining that people think I’m attractive when I go by.
And then, other times, I’m busy. I don’t care whether you’re attracted to me & it’s not on my mind; I have a history test in five minutes and I have to go to my locker and not step on any freshmen and I’m exhausted. Or I’m on a scavenger hunt with my friends, and I’m racing across a parking lot and laughing. And I think that everyone has the right to that innocence, whenever they want it.
Hallafreakinglujah, I actually managed to make a point in such a way that it was understood and agreed with. I seem to have been rather sparse on that lately.
But yeah, like (ew why can I not manage to get that out of my vocabulary), it’s cool if you want to objectify yourself but other people doing it against your will is bad.
In other news I’m exhausted and will be going to sleep in a few so excuse the lack of coherency.
But, as someone who gets hit on a lot by people who are a lot older – & these really are the only people who hit on me; it really makes me wonder what’s wrong with me that nobody my age finds me attractive.
I used to wonder that a lot myself when I was your age (back in 1892, natch). No one at school hit on me–NO ONE. And yet whenever I’d walk home, 18,000 men over the age of 20 would want my number. It was RIDICULOUS. And seriously insulting. It was like, “What, only people who have never heard me SPEAK are interested in me? What IS this shit?”
But it has nothing to do with you and everything to do with the kids at your school. I got dogged on throughout most of middle and high school–”You’re fat, you’re ugly, you’re a dude, you’re a dyke,” etc. And frankly? It was because I scared the hell out of the other children. Seriously. There were kids who got better grades than I did, but there were very few kids who were as inquisitive or who were as genuinely interested in learning as I was–and they all caught shit, too (even if some of them had boyfriends/girlfriends). I made the “normal” guys feel inferior, and men–even when they’re boys–do not like that. So they called me names and told me I was ugly because I made them feel stupid and they were trying to “put me in my place.” And because we live in a patriarchal bullshit culture, putting me in my place involved telling me that my only use was to get fucked, and I was useless at that because no one wanted to fuck me.
I’m not going to lie to you and tell you that it will automatically get better in college. I met my abusive asshole ex at freshman orientation–there are no guarantees that universities have a better model of boy. But you’ll be going to a place that will probably be larger than your high school, and that will DEFINITELY have a larger percentage of people who actually want to learn simply for the sake of learning. There’s a better chance that the guys there will be on your level.
/lecture.
PS: I have seen your daily picture. You are very pretty. And I am jealous of most of your clothes.
What, only people who have never heard me SPEAK are interested in me? What IS this shit?”
Must… Fight… Snarkiness! No, fairly unsubtle reference to “the taming of the Shrew” breaking through!
Phew. Held it in, I’m ok now! Carry on.
Ahaha, I told the last dude who asked for my number that my phone was brand new and I didn’t know it yet. So he gave me his, and I pretended to put it in… and then escaped. He was actually about my age, but that was about two years ago, & dude was seriously creepy.
Bleh, my high school is full of asshats. Middle school was a lot worse, though – they shit they said wasn’t as nasty, but I was more sensitive and I heard it more often. (Not ever having to take gym again? Awesome. I was definitely the kid who got balls thrown at her head/face on a regular basis. I remember somebody throwing a basketball straight at my face, and hitting me, and I couldn’t tell who it was; I was just standing there with my nose bleeding and my glasses knocked off and tears streaming down my face from the impact so close to my eyes.) I’ve gotten “ugly” and “dyke” before a lot, probably because I live in a richly homophobic part of the South & have short hair. And honestly? If you’re gonna be homophobic, I won’t bother correcting you. I’ll just ask you if you’ve got a problem and walk off.
I think that college can only automatically make everything better… but not because it’s college. The older I get, the happier I find myself. And I’ll be older then! And stressed and panicky! But I’ll possibly have figured out if majoring in economics is really for me, and it’ll be a great time… even if I’m miserable sometimes.
Four years ago this time, I thought I needed a boy who could “fix” me. But what I really need is to graduate high school with a shiny second diploma & to groooooove.
PS: thank you so much! That totally made my day. =D
“And honestly? If you’re gonna be homophobic, I won’t bother correcting you. I’ll just ask you if you’ve got a problem and walk off.”
You rock!
Also, you are totally good looking according to your outfit pics. If I were a creepy old dude, or twenty years younger, I would totally hit on you.
If I were a creepy old dude, or twenty years younger, I would totally hit on you.
Hey! No fake-hitting on the teenager, dirty old man!
Is it allowed if I do it?
She’s cute!
Hey, you’re officially an adult now, too. You can’t get away with it either, missy.
Damn.
(Incidentally I still find it really weird that I’m legally an adult now.)
Don’t worry, the weirdness goes away about the time you start paying bills.
I’ll probably find that weird too. At whatever point I actually manage to move out. Have I mentioned that I wish to kill the UK government? Because I do. Because it is a STUPID, STUPID LAW THAT IS EXTREMELY UNLIKELY TO AFFECT WHAT IT IS INTENDED TO STOP.
Grr, argh.
I’m sorry, kitty. On the upside, maybe you can move in with some roommates or something while you wait?
This would probably require my actually getting and holding a job. And er, seeing how incredibly bad I was with responsibility at school and am about as bad at home….
I’d probably qualify as crazy enough for disability benefits if it wasn’t for how my dad stuck money for college for me in an account in both our names that he won’t give me. And is apparently too much to allow benefits which I know because I checked on suggestion of a friend.
I’m sorry, I get whiny and excuse-makey when I’m tired. This is probably an indication I should go the hell to sleep already only I am remarkably poor at actually doing so. The internet, it is full of shiny things. Must go find another webcomic archive to read!
“Have I mentioned that I wish to kill the UK government? Because I do. Because it is a STUPID, STUPID LAW THAT IS EXTREMELY UNLIKELY TO AFFECT WHAT IT IS INTENDED TO STOP.”
I don’t mean to pry, but what law prevents you from moving out?
I live in the US, and my original moving out plans were to move to the UK to live with my fiance. And then I discovered through a BBC article ON MY EIGHTEENTH BIRTHDAY that you cannot immigrate on either a fiance OR a spouse visa (yes, EVEN IF YOU ARE ALREADY MARRIED) unless you are 21 or older. Grrrrrr.
And I’m, erm, slightly unfit to help a job so I can’t just move out here. Loose possible new plan is six months of holiday visa visit and then student visa until I’m twenty one which pisses me the hell of because I DO NOT WANT TO GO BACK TO SCHOOL AND NOW I HAVE TO.
Harsh. *Sympathies offered*
Is the law designed to stop forced marriages? I don’t really see the intended purpose.
“And I’m, erm, slightly unfit ..”
Eeeeeey, one of my peeps, word up! (I hope that came out right, I am not experienced at speaking youth-american
I think it’s intended to stop slavery of young asian women or something. I don’t really see HOW it’s supposed to do this, as that sort of thing is, uh, already illegal.
Also, I don’t know how to speak youth-american either, ordinary english is fine
Also I’m kind of amused by being called kitty.
No, no, I totally think she can. There’s this close-in-age exception to the laws in my state that might go all the way up to twenty-one as long as the younger party is over sixteen.
Success!
As a reply I gaily sing the following while leering:
Haha, thanks. The last guy I said that to was about twice my size. His face was kinda like: O_O.
Two of my friends witnessed an incident where a bar patron passed a lesbian couple and commented that they ought to be forcibly cured.
The reaction from my friends was to walk over to the next table, one sits down, and the other straddles his legs whereupon they start to tonguekissing each other in a slobbering manner.
The catch: I’m about six feet, 220 pounds, and my head doesn’t come up to their shoulders. They are BIG boys. Also both work as bouncers.
The homophobic comments were conspicously absent
The offended party suffered in undignified silence for a while and then stalked out, being laughed at by half the bar.
I giggleded.
I was most proud of them. So were their girlfriends who later accused them of being brokeback mountain-buddies and that this was the real reason why they donned white pyjama and “cuddled for hours” in the dojo.
Women, their cruelty know no bounds.
The older I get, the happier I find myself. And I’ll be older then!
True ’nuff. Things really do get better and better as you get older, I find. I think you’ll rock college’s face RIGHT OFF.
Four years ago this time, I thought I needed a boy who could “fix” me.
I know that feeling. I wish we didn’t have this meme constantly replaying in our culture, because seriously. A relationship of two equals is a beautiful thing, but a relationship where one partner thinks the other is “better” than him/her? Yeah, that never ends well.
PS: thank you so much! That totally made my day. =D
Awww. I’m glad.
True ’nuff. Things really do get better and better as you get older, I find. I think you’ll rock college’s face RIGHT OFF.
Yay! …If applying doesn’t kick my ass first. I’ve been putting it off because, dude, who has application deadlines in October? Some of the places I’m applying to aren’t even accepting apps. And, also, applying is scary shit.
A relationship of two equals is a beautiful thing, but a relationship where one partner thinks the other is “better” than him/her? Yeah, that never ends well.
I had this idea about how I’d date a guy who’d think I was better than him and I’d think he was better than me and we’d fix each other and be everything the other had ever wanted and we’d occasionally have these tragic, romantic fights over “No, you’re better than me!”
I see it a little different now. I think about it, and I see myself walking through this airport. Outside, the sky is grey, and my heels are loud on the tile. There’s somebody beside me, and we have no trouble keeping up with each other – even if sometimes one of us sprains an ankle or walks a little slower or faster. Because there’s totally an Ace bandage in the carry-on, haha.
Oh dear, I want to actually extend things a bit further; I’ve known kids, particularly kids who’ve had a lot of interaction with adults, who you could not tell just by talking to them were kids. This advanced intellectual ability doesn’t mean they’re any more prepared for the emotional and physical aspects of sex than advanced physical development does.
I suppose what this really means is that you should get to know someone before you try to get them into bed. That way you’ll find out their actual age.
And for Polanski, I kind of hope he gets retried under today’s more feminist zeitgeist about rape. He’d get a longer sentence.
I suppose what this really means is that you should get to know someone before you try to get them into bed. That way you’ll find out their actual age.
Word.
But? But? How do you mean? That way I would have to view the object of my desire as a p, p, person! Who might have feelings!
See, the whole “she looks older” thing has always struck me as massively suspect.
At 25 I still get asked for ID when buying alcohol, and sometimes ciggies for the ‘rents (don’t smoke myself) here in the UK, where the legal age is 18. Bodily I may have developed quickly – (hello, D-cup by age 14!) but facially? I am constantly mistaken for a person 5+ years younger than I really am. Same when I was a kid.
Chubby cheeks, a stumpy nose and being a short-arse seems to cancel out the now G-cup boobs and big butt a lot of the time.
So I really don’t believe that any of the creepy, creepy men that went after me though I was “older” even if that was what they said later. They were probably more thinking “if there’s grass on the pitch…”. “She looked older” is just a convenient excuse in a world where so many people seem to think that makes it okay.
Plus the fact that most adult women don’t tend to think that trainers with blinky lights and a t-shirt with unironic dolphins prancing in front of a starry sky is the height of fashion.
“She looked older” is just a convenient excuse in a world where so many people seem to think that makes it okay.
Pretty much. Hilariously enough, men who like, ACTUALLY RESPECT WOMEN AND GET TO KNOW THEM don’t seem to be constantly running afoul of all these tricksy, well-developed barely-teenagers. Funny how that works…
Hey! I never claimed to be canadian! I just said that I didn’t have a problem with Christina Riccis forehead invading them! which, now that I see it OOC is a rather strange remark, bygones..
>Also, hey! We’re probably related! Distantly and blondly!
I am shamefully non-blonde. Also brown-eyed. I am a bad swede. (As a redeeming point I do have a vikingesque red beard, which, in wet conditions, according to coworkers, makes me clearly reminiscent of Davvy Jones from pirates of the carribean.)
>Oh, holy shit. That’s awful. Please tell me they’ll at least >be put through some kind of rehabilitation?
Well, the social services will get involved and try to figure out WTF goes on in their families, but unless the child is in danger or mistreated they cannot act. (I am not a lawyer, this is mediatruth, so take it as a wild guess) The parents can sign consent to send the kids to a shrink, but otherwise free pass.
I *think* that legally the incident is the same as “One kid hit the other with the hockey stick, and it accidentally went through his chest and killed him”
I *think* that legally the incident is the same as “One kid hit the other with the hockey stick, and it accidentally went through his chest and killed him”
…no one’s penis accidentally falls into a 10-year-old’s vagina. And that’s all I’m going to say about that.
Also, hockey! Oh, you Swedes are so funny with your made-up sports…
I am shamefully non-blonde. Also brown-eyed. I am a bad swede.
It’s okay. It causes the Mankiller clan endless amusement that my Svedish great-grandfather had black hair and my Italian great-grandfather was a blond. OMIGOD ETHNIC STEREOTYPES BEING VIOLATED ALL OVER THE PLACE!
Well, duh! I meant the accident analogy only as a legal reference. I did not mean to cause offense, this time, honest.
Made up sports? Made up sports, you wanna go there yankee girl?
“Football” take a ball, and kick it with your foot, “foot”+ “ball” = “football”
What do yanks do? You pack on a humongous amount of armour, and play a game where you hold the ovoid in your hand and run around headbutting the other players, and call it, what? That’s right. “football”. Helloooo? It should be handegg, or possibly sissy-rugby.
(On a side note, I asked a friend of mine if the hammerhead of a warhammer was large enough for the word “mankiller” to be indented, and he replied:
-Why, do you think the user needs directions? I found this highly amusing.)
Sorry, forgot in my last post: A couple of years ago, I got a court brief from a friend of mine. He’s a prosecutor (don’t know correct US title) in a court here in sweden, and sends me stuff sometimes.
The cases was as follows, a woman pressed charges for sexual assault, more to the point, forced oral sex.
The mans defence, really, really his defence?
“The woman was sitting in a staircase, leaning against the wall, sleeping since she was drunk. And when the defendant was walking up the stairs, having visited the bathroom, he was zipping his pants. And then, wait for it, ha tripped, and accidentally dropped his pants causing his now eloping male member to accidentally enter the womans mouth.”
I was thinking I would add something as a good ending, but I can’t top that.